Both are not very vivid, and a geranium that is added later is not much more convincing. The drydown is very much a floral affair, with rose and jasmine being evident. Whilst there are clearly some bay leaves and cinnamon in the top notes, the prominent force is a strong and quite bright and spicy cumin note that is very nice. But Epic Woman hits a perfect stride where it's simultaneously masculine and pretty, dank and luminous. Others go hard on the herbs and smell more like spaghetti sauce than perfume. Some of these go too heavy on the rose/patch and end up edging into fruitchouli territory. This is sub-genre of jammy-rose-attar-meets-herbs was a niche trend on the 00's and this is one of the best, because it really gets the juxtaposition right.
Given time, a rich base of frankincense and forest floor woods comes in underneath the dark masculine herbs, juxtaposed against the sweet, jammy rose/patchouli mix. Eventually, the pepper dissipates enough for a mix of masculine herbs to peek through (I can pick out basil, oregano, and something piney which I assume is juniper berry). But there's a thick, overwhelming layer of black pepper on top, which gives it a butch character usually missing from the genre. It's built on a core of rose/sandalwood/patchouli, so it's in the same basic family as Feminite du Bois or Malle's Noir Epices.
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